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Про top-posting

В рассылке questions@freebsd.org кто-то вновь вбросил про сабжевую тему.
Понравился ответ старожила:

    > The place where top posting makes most sense is the corporate
    > environment where an email thread starts with two (or more) people and as
    > discussion goes on more people are added to weigh in with their thoughts.
    > Done right it looks a bit like this when it arrives in the unsuspecting
    > Fiona's inbox, complete with all the context she needs to see what's going
    > on. She just has to read it message by message from bottom to top.

    No, that's complete utter nonsense because now poor Fiona
    is also forced by others into wasting her brain cycles trying to
    read reverse hodgepodge from bottom to top, gearshifting reading
    direction with every included snippet (which are in top-down form),
    to get the "full context" necessary anyways for her to not make
    professional error or negligience in whatever her duly considered
    reply ends up being. All those wasted burnt brain cycles add up
    across the enterprise.

    > She just has to read it message by message from bottom to top.

    And this here exactly admits that that is indeed the actual
    horrible situation... she "has to read it" all in backwards fashion,
    where "just has to" is a trick phrase to get her to do something
    different, extra burn, unnatural.

    Nothing is read from bottom to top, not books, not newspapers,
    not flyers, not signs, not computer terminals, not spreadsheets,
    nothing. There is no way for bottom-up "done right" because it is
    fundamentally wrong opposite against how humans run language.

    All the "corporate environment" top-post apologists are doing is
    making invalid excuses for their sorry lazy writing behaviours
    random junk tools and random contracts instead of teaching
    their staff to do standard top to bottom like everything else.
    These "environments" also waste endless cycles futzing their
    source code because they don't follow codequette there either.

    It's garbage netiquette perpetuated by the uninitiated,
    the lazy careless, and the impetulent flippants upon others.
    Allow garbage, get garbage, and it's getting worse because of that.
    Computing writing is a responsibility, teach your children.
    Quit top-posting, html'ing, whole msg quoting, etc.
    And get a real MUA that lets you actually see what your
    disgustingly torrid mess of an email looks like for real in
    real 80x25 plaintext... if that doesn't wake you up and tell you
    what's wrong and make you fix your emails, nothing will.

Полностью согласен что "копоративные" пользователи просто подло
оправдываются за свою лень, некомпетентность и банальное неуважение ко
времени собеседников (зачастую, конечно, таких же уродов, аналогично не
уважающих).

Ну и оправдываются за неумение настраивать своё говёное ПО, типа
Microsoft/Apple поделий. Где-то читал что в Outlook была банально бага,
когда метки цитирования (">" всякие) просто пропадали и поэтому люди
даже не могли понять где ответ, а где цитата и поэтому вынуждены были
писать свой ответ сверху, чтобы хоть как-то можно было разделить
информацию из-за этого бага. А это были времена когда обновление софта
означало заказ/распространений версий через дискеты, поэтому подобное ПО
использовалось годами. А так как закрытое, то и самостоятельно исправить
не было возможности.

И ещё заметил что куча людей вообще не разделяет (почему то) такие
use-case-ы как ответ на дискуссионное сообщение и forward писем, мешая
всё в одну кучу.

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